Comments on: Letter: Florida Militias and the Second Amendment http://www.historiccity.com/2009/staugustine/news/florida/letter-florida-militias-and-the-second-amendment-2095 St Augustine is First America, founded in 1565 by Pedro Menendez, it is the oldest, continually occupied European settlement and port in the continental United States. Wed, 08 Feb 2012 20:47:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: tsiya http://www.historiccity.com/2009/staugustine/news/florida/letter-florida-militias-and-the-second-amendment-2095/comment-page-1#comment-706 tsiya Tue, 17 Nov 2009 06:15:10 +0000 http://www.historiccity.com/?p=20056#comment-706 Oathkeepers is one of the great hopes for our Nation.. Too many have taken the oath of allegiance and thought of it as a silly little ceremony. The terrifying thing, SamAdams, is that the officer was of high rank and in a position of power. Oathkeepers is one of the great hopes for our Nation.. Too many have taken the oath of allegiance and thought of it as a silly little ceremony.
The terrifying thing, SamAdams, is that the officer was of high rank and in a position of power.

]]> By: SamAdams1776 http://www.historiccity.com/2009/staugustine/news/florida/letter-florida-militias-and-the-second-amendment-2095/comment-page-1#comment-705 SamAdams1776 Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:57:56 +0000 http://www.historiccity.com/?p=20056#comment-705 Well, I am ALSO a member of the FNG and issues of constitutionality are above NO ONE's pay grade. Only Lawful orders may be obeyed and do to otherwise is a UCMJ/FLCMJ violation. Lawfulness also includes whether or not an order is Constitutional...a decision the one receiving the order must make and may have to stand before a courts-martial. I am an OATHKEEPER and will not obey any un-constitutional orders. Go to http://oathkeepers.org to see what 10 orders no military person or conscientious LEO would obey. Well, I am ALSO a member of the FNG and issues of constitutionality are above NO ONE’s pay grade. Only Lawful orders may be obeyed and do to otherwise is a UCMJ/FLCMJ violation. Lawfulness also includes whether or not an order is Constitutional…a decision the one receiving the order must make and may have to stand before a courts-martial.

I am an OATHKEEPER and will not obey any un-constitutional orders.

Go to http://oathkeepers.org to see what 10 orders no military person or conscientious LEO would obey.

]]> By: tsiya http://www.historiccity.com/2009/staugustine/news/florida/letter-florida-militias-and-the-second-amendment-2095/comment-page-1#comment-704 tsiya Mon, 16 Nov 2009 06:11:45 +0000 http://www.historiccity.com/?p=20056#comment-704 The original militia concept was based on local control, Derek, and the National Guard doesn't exactly qualify. I am aware of a release from MOWW claiming that, for second amendment purposes, the guard is the militia intended to be armed, not the citizens at large. This view is not what the founders intended, it simply takes more power from the people and places it under government control. I was told by an FNG officer that he would carry out "any order", that issues of constitutionality are "above my pay grade". I imagine that a few of the founders spun in their graves on that statement. The Guard is a reserve, Derek, and worthy of honor and praise, but it isn't THE MILITIA. The original militia concept was based on local control, Derek, and the National Guard doesn’t exactly qualify.
I am aware of a release from MOWW claiming that, for second amendment purposes, the guard is the militia intended to be armed, not the citizens at large.
This view is not what the founders intended, it simply takes more power from the people and places it under government control.
I was told by an FNG officer that he would carry out “any order”, that issues of constitutionality are “above my pay grade”. I imagine that a few of the founders spun in their graves on that statement.
The Guard is a reserve, Derek, and worthy of honor and praise, but it isn’t THE MILITIA.

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